Wednesday, November 4, 2009

11/4 Question

Compare and contrast Fight Club to the novel and/or other adaptations we've watched of Jekyll and Hyde. What do we gain by thinking of Fight Club as an adaptation of The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

20 comments:

Unknown said...

With Fight Club, if me, it was harder to know what was going on; I had no idea that this was like a Jekyll and Hyde situation. In the way that Jekyll/the narrator didn't really know about Hyde/Tyler Durden or what Hyde/Tyler was doing, Fight Club was like the novel. In the way that in Fight Club, Tyler was controlled in the end is a way that Fight Club is different than all the other adaptations that we have seen; in the tv show, Jekyll tried to control Hyde but it hasn't worked out.
By viewing Fight Club as a Jekyll and Hyde adaptation we gain the view that Hyde can be controlled if the person is in the right mindset and we see how different an adaptation can be.

James G. said...

I find Fight Club to be most like the television adaptation of Jekyll and Hyde because the depiction of Tyler Durden and Billy Hyde are very similar. Both make their host seem inferior and weak. Both are an embodiment of everything their host wishes they could be. Also, Jackman and Hyde have inner dialogue much the same way Tyler Durden and Ed Norton have an inner struggle later in the movie. By thinking of Fight Club as an adaptation of Jekyll and Hyde, we gain a unique perspective of the alter ego as being entirely in the host's mind. Ultimately the host has all control, though it is difficult for him to reach that point of enlightenment.

Matthew Gottlieb said...

Fight Club is definitely one of the most unique (and strangest) adaptations of Jekyll and Hyde mainly because of the way the plot unfolds. Unlike in the other adaptations where we know from the beginning that Jekyll and Hyde are the same person, in Fight Club, it is not clear at all that Brad Pitt and Edward Norton's character are actually the same entity. It is not until the end that we discover that the former was actually a figment of the real Tyler Durden's imagination yet still played a prominent role in shaping his life. This could probably be most easily compared to the novel in that we do not learn until later on that Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde are indeed the same being.

Sally Gerwel said...

Fight Club was an amazing and creative version of Jekyll and Hyde. In comparison to the novel, film and t.v. show, Fight Club's "Hyde" was nonexistent. He was not a physical being that people distinguish from Jekyll. He was Jekyll's subconscious which I think is awesome and makes me like the novel that much more. By thinking of Fight Club as an adaptation of Jekyll and Hyde we see how an average person can turn evil. It shows how an average Joe, who is unhappy with his work and personal life, can go to drastic measures to turn the world upside down. It makes you feel like it can happen to anyone.

Amanda Holtsclaw said...

Fight Club was honestly creepy. Unlike Jekyll and Hyde which is kind of scary. Creepy and scary are two very different things. Fight club was way confusing and hard to understand, and then all of a sudden its like BAM this dude is mental. Jekyll and Hyde lets the viewer know what is going on the whole time. In Fight Club, the man is tired of his everyday life and therefore dreams up an alternate ego to satify his need for excitment. In Jekyll and Hyde the doctor is experimenting to prove a point of good and evil. Fight Club, I think is only like Jekyll and Hyde because it deals with alternate egos. One good but not perfect, and one a little on the dangerous side.

Iesha said...

With fight club he actually watched himself change. He watched everything he did as if it was someone else, but with the other jekyll and hydes they were not able to watch the actions of hyde. The others only could see the effects of hyde and not actually watch as things were happenin. Gain more of an awareness of what your alter ego does and how you rarely stop it and you let it take over you.

jeffrey mcclain said...

FIGHT CLUB IS THE GREATEST MOVIE EVER!!!!!! Fight club is shown from tyler's perspective and you see both of his psyches at once, as he sees it. the novel and movie/show only show an outsiders perspective on whats going on inside of his mind/ physche.

Nathan R said...

In fight club Tyler represents Hyde or the evil side as he leads a gang of rebel thats release their stress by fighting. He hides his plan from edward norton's character because he knew that he would let them go through with it. They attack the main corporations but Edwars character ends up finding out what they are doing. Finally in the ending battle scene Hyde is tricked and falls to his "good" side unlike the novel.

Emily Johnson said...

Well to begin, a first time audience member would not have known this was a Jekyll/Hyde tale until the end. We saw 2 people in the scenes at the same time. We saw Marla interracting with both Pitt's portrayal of Tyler and Norton's portayal of Tyler.

As Amanda said, Tyler was unhappy with his life, so he imagined this alter ego who had a care free life. With Jekyll and Hyde, Dr. Jekyll was doing just to prove everyone had a little bit of evil in him. Out of all three, we do see that even though they all have their evil moments, their consciences appear. The idea of the "bad guy" is appealing for a while, so Norton's character "tags along". As Brad Pitt kept saying, "You could die at any moment, never really "living" your life." Finally, Pitt's character begins to do extreme things...destroy buildings, threaten people, have a cult of people that used to be good people, turn into criminals. All three have one thing in common. Someone the characters deeply care for is harmed. In Fight Club, you have Bob, who was a completely harmless man, killed by the police. In Jekyll and Hyde, Beatrice and Ivy are both deeply hurt. In Jekyll, it becomes a problem with him when he sees his family is in danger. It is too late for these three men. Their alter egos get the best of them and it leads to their destruction.

Jessi Sturkie said...

Fight Club was a more psychologically driven movie whereas the 1941 movie version of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde was more of a horror film. These two interpretations of the same story differ on some major themes. Fight Club didn't have the science versus religion/society theme, but both movies concerned a main character who was disatisfied with his life as it was previous to the darker manifestation of his psyche. Fight Club also had a lot of other people (all the members of the Fight Club) who came in contact with the alter ego whereas in the other movie, there seemed to be considerably less people who socialized with Hyde. Both "Hyde" characters did have promiscuous relationships with women that society would deem unsuitable for a "real" relationship (like marriage). Also, Fight Club is a modern interpretation of the story and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde seemed to be set in the time period of the original story (the novel). Because of the modern setting, Fight Club didn't have any of the themes of London's duality, but it did show the duality of the home of the Narrator/Tyler Durden and the car company that he/they worked for.

Jordan Clark said...

Before now, I had never watched Fight Club and realized it was an adaptation of Jekyll and Hyde, but it obviously is. The narrator ("Jack") is like Jekyll, who is unhappy with his life and end up creating another personality within himself. I don't think of Tyler Durden as evil though, I think of him almost as Jack's savior - for without Tyler and the hell he puts Jack through, Jack would never have come to embrace his life and would have spent forever living meaninglessly. I'm sure that Fight Club has lots of comparisons to Jekyll and Hyde, but Fight Club is one of those movies that you have to watch multiple times before you fully understand it, and I know that I'm going to have to watch it another time or two with Jekyll and Hyde in mind before I understand the full extent of the adaptation.

Morgan Grogan said...

Fight Club was a great adaptation of Jekyll and Hyde. This movie relates more to the novel, because we as an audience don't realize that both the "Hyde" character and the "Jekyll" character are the same until the end. In this movie, Jekyll is the narrator and Hyde is Tyler. This adaption also has some differences. One difference is that in the novel, the audience gets the story through someone else's point of view. In the movie, we get the story from the "Jekyll" character.

I agree with Iesha with what we gain by thinking of this movie as an adaption to the novel. When our "alter ego" takes over, we rarely realize it and it is very hard to overcome it.

Aaron Jacobson said...

fight club was a very lose adaptation, but a very good one. You dont really know fight club is like Jekyll and Hyde untill the very end. Fight club is definetly a more modern take on the classic, but it plays with you mind and emotions. I enjoy the fact that you really dont know what's going on until the very end, and thats what makes it different from the other adaptations.

Jeff Tallia said...

I really enjoyed Fight Club as an adaptation of Jekyll and Hyde. At first I wasn't connecting how Fight Club was an adaptation of the novel, but then it became apparent at the end. Although Tyler represents the Hyde character, he is not evil like Hyde, for without the Tyler side of him Ed would not have found meaning in his life. On difference between Fight Club and the TV series is we don't know Tyler is Ed's other half until the end. In the TV series the viewer is introduced to Hyde almost immediately.

Unknown said...

I had never seen Fight Club before, and while watching it I could definitely see some strange similarities to Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. The first instance I saw a similarity was when he was in the office meeting with his boss and he started to punch himself and basically beat himself up. Thats when I knew something was up, something inside of him was controlling him like Jekyll started being controlled by Hyde in the novel. As someone said earlier, Fight Club reminds me of the tv show, because it doesn't so much relate to the novel or film of Jekyll and Hyde, but you can still see similarities between the two. When watching Fight Club, it allowed me to understand it more while thinking that it was an adaptation of J and H. If i had just watched that movie on my own without thinking about J and H I wouldn't have picked up on the connection until the end of the movie when Tyler is talking about his different personalities. It brings the movie to a new level.

Collin Thurston said...

In Fight Club, the main character does not know he is Tyler Durden until the end, whereas in Jekyll and Hyde, each of them recognizes his counter part. I find Fight club not only to be a great adaptation of the novel, but also an all around great film. It leaves the audience completely in the dark and as the viewer watches the movie again and again he/she is able to pick up new subtleties every time. Fight club brings suspense to a new level, and Jekyll and Hyde is kind of more of a classic story that everyone knows. Fight Club is great to watch because you are not expecting it to be anything like a Jekyll and Hyde and it all makes sense once that idea is presented.

Rebecca Mellin said...

I found Fight Club to have the same concept that Jekyll portrays. Both characters did not take a potion to create their other half and they both, at the beginning, don't really know what's going on when they change. They just wake up and don't remember what happened or where they are. Both in fight club and Jekyll the "Jekyll and Hyde" characters can comunicate with each other, however, in fight club the two characters were able to directly communicate with each other as though they were in the same room together, but in Jekyll they have to communicate by cameras or tape recorders. The main difference between the two adaptations is that in Fight Club the main character doesn't know that Tyler is him and he is Tyler, and in Jekyll Dr. Jackman knows that he and Mr. Hyde are the same person. The main character in Fight club also found a way to cure it by shooting hiimself, however, I'm not quite sure how he managed to live? And in Fight Club the problem is a mental disorder, not a physical change as in Jekyll. Both adaptations are not exactly similar to the story that novel The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde gives, but they are both very good adaptations of the struggles that they go through.

Anonymous said...

Fight club is a more contemporary film. It always gives a shock to andience and tell what the story wants to tell. Tyler was created beacuse as he said that Narrator wanted himself to be Tyler. This is the main reason of the tagedy story between Jekyll and Hyde. Fight club figure out the problem more directly. All the Jekylls don't like what they are in the real world. They want new lives and more rights to control others. That's the evil soul of Jekyll. Narrator wants to make himself stronger and he respects Tyler so much. But he has more kind side in heart. He knows that there are a lot of things that he cannot do. The structure is the same as the book.

Ashley Dunn said...

As many of the above comments stated, with Fight Club like the television show is a newer adaptation. But with Fight Club, Tyler watches himself but doesn't know its him until the end Unlike the other versions the characters know that they have another "part" from almost the beginnning. Oviously the orginal Jekyll and Hyde can have many adaptations, which each can have many similaritis or differences.

Alex Lott said...

I agree with Matthew at the top. This adaptation is most similar to the novel as far as the big reveal. In the other adaptations, we find out early on who Hyde is. In Fight Club, we find out at the end of the movie that Tyler is Edward Norton; they are the same person. However, Fight Club is very different as far as the split personalities go. Edward Norton was Tyler the whole time. The narration that was going on wasn't really happening. Edward Norton was actually doing all the things that Brad Pitt was doing. This is extremely different than Jekyll & Hyde. They were two separate identities. Fight Club portrayed a theme completely different than that.